Talk:Autism in popular culture

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Hey, I'm really interested in what you have so far. I think this topic is really creative and fascinating. I know we're in the beginning stages of making our pages and I hope to see some aspects of TV and Movies in your article. In shows like Parenthood and movies like Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close they seem to follow the stereotype of what the "typical" autistic child acts like. I'll be really interested in the research you find on these types of stereotypes and how the media skews the disorder. Great start though! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcpasiec (talk • contribs) 18:07, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey, great start so far. You seem to know whats going when it comes to Wikipedia, hence the good use of links or "wikifying" I think is called. Your format looks good as well. I love forward to learning more about a topic that I don't think I would have ever learned about. Good start Abulak —Preceding undated comment added 01:00, 1 April 2012 (UTC).

Well! I do a bunch of work overhauling citations just to see that this is a class. No hard feelings, everyone! As long as you're reading this, the Hacking article in Metaphilosophy has a URL specific to your school. Who wants to help find a better one? --BDD (talk) 22:12, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Merge

Text from Sociological and cultural aspects of autism that belongs here if it can be cited.

Autistic characters also appear in many works by non-autistic authors. Mark Haddon's 2003 novel The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time, has been celebrated for its immersion into the world of its teenage autistic narrator. The Speed of Dark, by Elizabeth Moon, explores the possibility of a cure for autism and its effect on autistics. Margaret Atwood's novel Oryx and Crake has a university labeled Asperger's U, where almost every student appears to have Asperger Syndrome or autism in varying degrees of severity and form. People in the university refer to non-autists as neurotypicals and seem to view them as something altogether different (and perhaps inferior) to themselves.

Children of the Stars is an award-winning documentary about children with autism in China. My Name Is Khan is a 2010 Bollywood film which shows the lead character played by Shahrukh Khan (Rizwan Khan) suffering from Asperger's syndrome. The movie garnered critical acclaim and shed light on Asperger's syndrome in India.

Alphas features an autistic character, Gary Bell (Ryan Cartwright) as one of its main characters. The movie Mary and Max is about an adult who is diagnosed with Asperger syndrome.

SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:13, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

ON second thought, now that I've looked over the article, I'm unconvinced there is enough for an article here-- that is, this could have been covered at Sociological and cultural aspects of autism. I've removed the blog sources, and unless that text can be sourced to reliable sources, it should be removed, and there's not much left in the article. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:48, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

There is very little new content here, the sources were generally the same as in the broader article, and I've proposed this article be merged back into that one. See Talk:Sociological and cultural aspects of autism#Merger proposal. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 08:24, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Please review WP:MOSDATE#Precise language, and unless full-text of journal articles are freely avaiable, we don't link to a URL (access can be gained via PMID or DOI)-- I've cleaned up the citations. Please review WP:MEDRS also. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:49, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice! I'm working on expanding this article at the moment; as you see I'm building this page and learning wikipedia as part of a Communication course at UMass Amherst. I understand the points you bring up, and while this article evolves over the next few weeks it will be much more substantial. I'm just out of the "info-gathering" stage. 128.119.155.45 (talk) 13:10, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Now that I see the article heading in the direction of including non-fictional issues with the media portrayal of autism, I'm inclined towards removing my merge proposal, but will wait to see how much more content you have to add. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:35, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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Hey, things are looking great since that last time that I looked at your article. I like the categories that you have chosen to focus on. Let me know if you're in need of any extra sources, I have found a few interesting articles that you may be interested in. --Nicole1290 (talk) 02:47, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Nicole, this is not "someone's article", it's a Wikipedia article (see WP:OWN); if you have sources that are relevant, you don't need to ask if "we" want them. "We" (Wikipedia) do; please just post them here, which is an appropriate use of an article talk page. If you want to cheer on a friend or classmate, on the other hand, that is done on individual talk pages. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:13, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Big Bang Theory

This is only a blog, but it says that the Big Bang Theory character does not have autism, according to the show's writers.

• Landau, Elizabeth. "Geekiness and autism: Is there a connection?" CNN. April 23, 2012.

SandyGeorgia (Talk) 06:48, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

It also says that actor Jim Parsons views the character through the lens of Asperger's syndrome, so it can not be said definitively that the character does not have an ASD. Since the character is speculated by the public to be an "aspie," that portion of the article is sound. Pbruce1110 (talk) 22:44, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Doc Martin

There is a current UK TV show that depicts a doctor, called Doc Martin who has bad social skills and is immune to the emotions in his patients but at the same time is a brilliant doctor. I believe it has been suggested that he has some form of Asperger. Rhodydog (talk) 17:22, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Proposed merger with Asperger syndrome in popular culture

Asperger syndrome is part of the spectrum, so it makes sense to consolidate these two articles. Muffinator (talk) 19:12, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

NPOV Autism diagnoses in notable individuals

This new section that was recently added lacks a neutral point of view in that it is slanted towards criticism of notable diagnosis results, and contains very little balance. Examples that support the diagnosis results in similar terms needs to be added, including references of course. 101.182.75.183 (talk) 10:47, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Salmon Fishing in Yemen

Is Dr. Alfred Jones diagnosed with the Asperger syndrome, or is he just a weird nerd?

Ceplm (talk) 22:29, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

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First-person narrative from autistic individuals

Aside from the section of books written via facilitated communication or rapid prompting, there is nothing about first-person narratives from autistic individuals (eg. "Look Me in the Eye" by John Elder Robinson). These are an extremely valuable resource and should either be included or linked. Ganondox (talk) Ganondox (talk) 06:24, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 12 June 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Procedural close, editors agree that a discussion at this time is premature, pending the results of a consensus on the main page. No prejudice against reopening of an RM to this effect at any point in time. (non-admin closure) Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 14:49, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

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Autism spectrum disorders in the media → Autism in popular culture – Autism spectrum "disorder" leads to incorrect assumptions about autism as pointed out on autism spectrum main talk page. If autism spectrum main page is being kept at its current name, then "Autism spectrum disorders in the media" would probably need to be changed to Autism in popular culture or something along those lines. Mruanova (talk) 14:11, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

I disagree with both the interpretation of the discussion on the "autism spectrum" article talk page and with the reasoning for this move, but I would support the change to "autism in popular culture" Tekrmn (talk) 17:18, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

I suggest we pause this discussion until the title of the main article has been agreed on. The sub-articles should follow the main article's title and there will be more eyes on the main article's talk page.--TempusTacet (talk) 17:24, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

I have to agree. I only mentioned it on the autism spectrum talk page as a POSSIBILITY that the page name be changed, but I think it would be too early to this change. Once that discussion is concluded, THEN there can be discussion as whether to change the name of this page or not. Historyday01 (talk) 17:53, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Adumbrativus (talk) 07:06, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

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Autism spectrum disorders in the media → Autism in popular culture – Main topic page Autism spectrum disorder has been moved to Autism. The content of the article explicitly discusses popular culture rather than the more vague subject of "the media".

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1, more natural and concise Kowal2701 (talk) 18:42, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

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