Talk:Amaravati
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Founder in the infobox
editAn editor keeps changing the name of the founder in the infobox from N. Chandrababu Naidu to Vasireddy Venkatadri Nayudu.[1] The infobox is intended as a summary of the article.
- The article talks about how N. Chandrababu Naidu founded Amaravati as the capital city of Andhra Pradesh in 2014-15 (the infobox says 2014). There are citations for this in the article.
- The article also mentions Vasireddy Venkatadri Nayudu founding a village called Amaravati in the late 18th or early 19th century (Vasireddy Venkatadri Nayudu died in 1816).
It does not make any sense for the infobox to state that the city was founded in 2014 by someone who died in 1816, and clearly did not found the modern city.-- Toddy1 (talk) 04:34, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
According to the article on Amaravathi, Palnadu district, the village of Amaravathi was founded by Vasireddy Venkatadri Nayudu in the 1790s. It says that the city of Amaravati is 35 km (22 mi) east of the village.-- Toddy1 (talk) 05:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- who are you? what is your monopoly on wikipoly?
- Stop rubbing ur personal views on south Indian articles like Amaravati and Hyderabad. The name of Amaravti is from the original Amaravathi site founded by Vasiraju stop rubbing your european tactics on articles related to AP and Telangana, we dont need ur manipulations here Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 07:45, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @DMacks I don't believe there will ever be any change in @Ustadeditor2011 behavior towards other editors. I can also move this to ANI as this is most likely not an appropriate venue for this complaint, but just pinging you beforehand — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 08:25, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- You protect Amaravati article first. Then talk about behavior. You dont allow Infobox to be updated, you dont allow articles to be updated, I have complained about the IP addresses disruption, you dont take any action. But you talk about my behavior ? Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 10:02, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Amaravati original founder is not N. Chandrababu Naidu, it is Vasireddy Venkatadri Nayudu. Make sure DaxServer protect that matter. After that you can complain about me anywhere. Politicians wont be founders of cities and capitals, it is unnatural. Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 10:14, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @DMacks I don't believe there will ever be any change in @Ustadeditor2011 behavior towards other editors. I can also move this to ANI as this is most likely not an appropriate venue for this complaint, but just pinging you beforehand — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 08:25, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- This is wrong explanation, it is other way around. Amaravathi, Palnadu district, is not a village, it is a temple town founded by Vasireddy Venkatadri Nayudu in the 1790s based on which the name Amaravati is carved out 35 km away. Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 10:05, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
And why is your talk page showing wikipoly? it means you are indirectly suggesting your monopoly on wiki? Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 10:06, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- I do not think that protecting the article is the right solution. IP editors like 60.243.160.114 from Hyderabad make productive contributions (with sensible edit summaries), and should be allowed to continue editing the page. -- Toddy1 (talk) 10:28, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Old City, Hyderabad was founded by Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah (died 1612), not some Chief Minister or Politician, who built a software park 386 years later 35 km away in the city of modern Hyderabad during 1990's. Similarly old city Amaravathi is founded by Vasireddy Venkatadri Nayudu (died 1816) not some Chief Minister or Politician who is building a government complex 200 years later 35 km away in the city of modern Amaravati in 2024, so pls change it in the Amaravati article's infobox. This is applicable to any city of the world, Amaravati is not unique to this. Just because somebody is a fan of N. Chandrababu Naidu, cannot endorse it to the article illogically.Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 06:38, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- See comments in #Founder in the infobox.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:11, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing is there in your old comments. Not those old unclear and inarticulate comments made by you. Explain here specifically in reply to my question. You have not answered that. Instead of avoiding the topic, and escaping, it would be better if u get serious, and put ur logic on and explain how old city Hyderabad founder is different from old city Amaravathi founder. There are no sources and not random news reports over web which just mirror wikipedia article provided by you which do not show sources specifically using the line Amaravati founded by Naidu. And also provide me proof that consensus is achieved with atleast 2 other editors to ur point. Without 2 other editors consensus you cant just wrong me like u did before and get me blocked.Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 07:39, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Pls reply and show some respect to fellow editor or update founder in the article to Vasireddy Venkatadri Nayudu. Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 14:37, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- You asked about consensus. Either three or four editors made a total of eleven edits that changed the "founder" field in the infobox to N. Chandrababu Naidu. Three of the edits were by two logged-in editors.04:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC), 16:02, 18 June 2024 (UTC), 04:18, 19 June 2024 (UTC) Eight of the edits were by IP editors, with Bombay and Hyderabad IP addresses.01:31, 10 June 2024 (UTC), 05:20, 10 June 2024 (UTC), 09:15, 10 June 2024 (UTC), 13:10, 10 June 2024 (UTC), 12:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC), 03:31, 12 June 2024 (UTC), 01:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC), 05:02, 20 June 2024 (UTC) Only one editor has expressed the view that the "founder" field in the infobox should not show N. Chandrababu Naidu. As pointed out to you on your talk page, the IP editor(s)
gave a link supporting their version whereas you did not
.[2] Almost all the IP edits that changed the "founder" field in the infobox to N. Chandrababu Naidu had useful edit summaries that explained their point of view.
- You asked about consensus. Either three or four editors made a total of eleven edits that changed the "founder" field in the infobox to N. Chandrababu Naidu. Three of the edits were by two logged-in editors.04:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC), 16:02, 18 June 2024 (UTC), 04:18, 19 June 2024 (UTC) Eight of the edits were by IP editors, with Bombay and Hyderabad IP addresses.01:31, 10 June 2024 (UTC), 05:20, 10 June 2024 (UTC), 09:15, 10 June 2024 (UTC), 13:10, 10 June 2024 (UTC), 12:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC), 03:31, 12 June 2024 (UTC), 01:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC), 05:02, 20 June 2024 (UTC) Only one editor has expressed the view that the "founder" field in the infobox should not show N. Chandrababu Naidu. As pointed out to you on your talk page, the IP editor(s)
- It would be absurd to have an infobox saying that the Amaravati was established in 2014 by a man who died on 17 August 1817.
- There is an article on Amaravathi, Palnadu district that says that "Amaravathi was founded by Raja Vasireddy Venkatadri Nayudu in the 1790s".
- There is a separate article on the new capital city of the Indian state of Andhra Pradesh that was established in 2014.
- -- Toddy1 (talk) 15:25, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- I am asking you, how is this "Amaravati was established in 2014 by a man who died on 17 August 1817" is different from Old City, Hyderabad was founded by Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah (who died 1612). Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 02:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- and who founded Hyderabad ? the one who build the legislative assembly in the city? or Hitech city in the city chandra babau naidu? or Quli Qutub shah? so the argument is failing here right? some IP edits dont show here to me. I want consensus from other editors here in chat. If no consensus I will change the founder to Vasireddy after i get edit rights, and dont edit war with me at that time. Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 02:25, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
If no consensus I will change the founder to Vasireddy after i get edit rights, and dont edit war with me at that time.
Defo not a way to collaboratively edit. Pinging blocking admin @Daniel Case as the block is CTOPS, fyi. — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 07:26, 26 June 2024 (UTC)- I have extended their block from this page for another two months. "If no consensus I will change the founder to Vasireddy after i get edit rights, and dont edit war with me at that time. Wow ... slam-dunk evidence of a battleground mentality. Daniel Case (talk) 19:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Listen disrespectful editor, I am slam dunk? you will slam and kill me in battleground? are you threatening me? what language is this slam dunk? I will report you in admin notice board for abusive language slam-dunk. Without consensus on content how other people can edit a page? I want consensus on founder of Amaravati if you are competent enough argue on that, block editors is easy but contributing is difficult. You have zero collaborative contribution on the article and you talk non sense about me? you have blocking rights doesnt make you better than me. You have battleground mentality not me. The other editors have no argument to make with me on the content, you block him Toddy Toddy of the europa. You First solve the content dispute above, it is your responsibility to resolve it, not mine then u can keep blocking people, you dont have any work other than that anyways.Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 03:40, 27 June 2024 (UTC)c
- @Ustadeditor2011: Please read slam dunk.-- Toddy1 (talk) 05:41, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Listen disrespectful editor, I am slam dunk? you will slam and kill me in battleground? are you threatening me? what language is this slam dunk? I will report you in admin notice board for abusive language slam-dunk. Without consensus on content how other people can edit a page? I want consensus on founder of Amaravati if you are competent enough argue on that, block editors is easy but contributing is difficult. You have zero collaborative contribution on the article and you talk non sense about me? you have blocking rights doesnt make you better than me. You have battleground mentality not me. The other editors have no argument to make with me on the content, you block him Toddy Toddy of the europa. You First solve the content dispute above, it is your responsibility to resolve it, not mine then u can keep blocking people, you dont have any work other than that anyways.Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 03:40, 27 June 2024 (UTC)c
- I have extended their block from this page for another two months. "If no consensus I will change the founder to Vasireddy after i get edit rights, and dont edit war with me at that time. Wow ... slam-dunk evidence of a battleground mentality. Daniel Case (talk) 19:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- and who founded Hyderabad ? the one who build the legislative assembly in the city? or Hitech city in the city chandra babau naidu? or Quli Qutub shah? so the argument is failing here right? some IP edits dont show here to me. I want consensus from other editors here in chat. If no consensus I will change the founder to Vasireddy after i get edit rights, and dont edit war with me at that time. Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 02:25, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- I am asking you, how is this "Amaravati was established in 2014 by a man who died on 17 August 1817" is different from Old City, Hyderabad was founded by Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah (who died 1612). Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 02:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- It would be absurd to have an infobox saying that the Amaravati was established in 2014 by a man who died on 17 August 1817.
How is it not absurd in the infobox of Hyderabad Quli Qutub Shah by a man who died on 11 January 1612? how is it different in Amaravati I am asking you, and no body has anser to that, instead of answering to that question you deviate and waste time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ustadeditor2011 (talk • contribs) 04:19, 27 June 2024 (UTC)