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Requested move 3 September 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved Alex Pereira (kickboxer) to Alex Pereira and Alex Pereira to Alex Pereira (disambiguation) No such user (talk) 07:18, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

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• Alex Pereira (kickboxer) → Alex Pereira
• Alex Pereira → Alex Pereira (disambiguation)

– The kickboxer is the primary topic with 300 daily views per day not counting the surge in views from his recent signing to the UFC. The footballer gets 0-1 views and the other two people Alex Pereira Soras/Lopaz do not generate views, but can be put on the disambiguation page that will be put in the hatnote of "Alex Pereira", the kickboxer, should this be approved. Marty2Hotty (talk) 15:45, 3 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 14:53, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The kickboxer article has by far the most usage, with 99 percent of views - before the recent spike. Dohn joe (talk) 17:01, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

He’s converted to Islam

There is a video of him taking the Shahada on Facebook. 47.145.224.28 (talk) 06:04, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

He converted to isla

Alex converted to islam about 7 years ago but it says orthodox on his wiki page can someone change it 2A10:800F:39C3:0:25F8:161B:6816:9573 (talk) 17:39, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

LOL, with „Orthodox“ it means his fighting style, not hes religion, he is/was not a orthodox Christian. And i read somewhere that Pareira left islam and went back to his original indigenous religion and culture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:E1:8730:D000:2879:323F:ABC0:D5E1 (talk) 18:00, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Add that perriera converted to islam

Add that perriera converted to islam in 2015 under his personal life. It is a big thing that happened to his personal life and is not listed 37.39.188.21 (talk) 00:13, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Untitled 2022 comment

Please change the religion of Alex Pereira to Islaam as he has converted many years back. I have noticed that this request is being asked frequently and no response on it from your side. If editing wont find place within 48 hours. I will have to stop my funding and support to your site unfortunately, because it starts giving me doubts about its true purpose who's I'm a big supporter of, sharing truth information.

Looking forward to hear from you.

Kind regards,

Moustafa Al Saab — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moustafa020 (talk • contribs) 10:20, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Reliable independent sources for Islam conversion

The following are not reliable sources:

1. cisweb is not reliable not independent source as it is an Islamic religion website - see here-1
2. archysport is not a reliable source - see here-2
3. sportskeeda refers their content from an article calfkicker - original source which the calfkicker content is not independent (interview piece) and calfkicker is not an independent nor reliable source - see here-3.

As for Sportskeeda - Although started since 2009, (who know how many actual journalists in the company) and only turn profitable in 2016 and sold about 63% (USD 6million - not a big company persay) and involved in esport and gaming - see here-4 and in addition - it site needs to specific how their article is being processed prior publishing - see here-5 which truly reliable, well establish sources would not have such info published. To me the source is not yet consider a reliable source. So in short, none of the sources above is considering reliable nor independent. I suggest you to open a discussion threat in the article talk page and stated why the content and sources were removed and you can copy and paste my reasons above (and state content added/changed needs to be supported by independent, reliable sources (IRS), such as from the major newspapers or books, for verification which is the Wikipedia core policy and the editor who added/changed the info needs to provide the say above to WP:PROOF

From: User:Cassiopeia Nswix (talk) 01:03, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

I mean when you bundle up the facts that Alex Pereira from his own mouth converted to Islam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?

The above is PRIMARY SOURCE that proves that Alex Pereira converted to Islam. Anyways in the above video Alex Pereira recites a SHAHADA, which is required for conversion to Islam. Note the word Pereira recites are: "Ash-hadu alla ilaha illallah, wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadar-Rasulullah"

This basically means: "I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah." Saying Shahada means you're a Muslim.

There is no other requirement to be a Muslim other than to say Shahada. This statement is from wikipeida itself: "A single honest recitation of the Shahada is all that is required for a person to become a Muslim according to most traditional schools" Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahada So Alexsandro Pereira reciting Shahada means he is a MUSLIM. as per wikipedia.

So based on primary source, which Pereira's own mouth, he converted to Islam

Also you guys include articles from NOT-SO Reliable sources on MMA wikipedia pages all time; like Sports Keeda, MMA Junkie and MMA Mania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Sources. You demand Alex Pereira conversion to Islam articles should be from RELIABLE sources like BBC, CNN, Al Jazzera come on. That's an unreasonable standard that you ppl don't follow yourself

If you guys really thought that Sports Keeda was a bad source. Why did you guys include Not one but three articles from Sports Keeda Articles on Khabib Nurmagomedov page which is NOT open to edit by outsiders. 119.73.121.33 (talk) 05:18, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Your reply would be much appreciated. So have a professional courtesy to reply 119.73.121.33 (talk) 05:49, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Is cisweb not reliable just because it is an islamic website or am i understanding something wrong ? I thought for a source to be considered independent it can't be self-published, primary and must be third party, all of which this source is. By this same logic we shouldn't use MMA focused websites as sources for info about MMA fighters, or ? What am I missing ? Diana056 (talk) 14:39, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Diana056 See my comments below first. Pls note source needs to be independent from the subject and reliable. The issue is an islamic website or any website which is termed not reliable because it has not not a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy in term of Wikipedia guidelines. Any sources that is related to the subject or interview piece (info comes from the subject) is considered not independent. Any MMA sources that is not related to any MMA fighter or the promotion is considered independent. Some MMA focused webiste are reliable such as MMA fighting, MMA Junkie, Cageside press and etc. but some are not reliable especially those just started not long ago which they just copy and rewrite the article after getting the info from the reliable source and no fact checking of their own nor the website (source) is considered reputable. (We can not use ESPN for UFC event or fighters as the source because ESPN has a major broacastbusiness deal with UFC for 7 years as currently speaking). Hope this answer your question. Cassiopeia talk 21:53, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

I get that but as far as I'm aware cisweb has no relation to Alex Pereira himself, so it is independent from the subject of this article. Based on what so you think cisweb specifically doesn't fact check/is inaccurate ? Also according to WP:ABOUTSELF an interview piece should be a completely acceptable source for this type of info, if such interview where he explicitly states he's muslim existed (but to my knowledge it doesn't). Diana056 (talk) 20:18, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Diana056 If the source is independent and reliable, interview info can be added to the article but only directed to the subject itself and we use it very sparingly. The question is cisweb is reliable or not - send link pls. Cassiopeia talk 02:55, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Link to what ? Sorry, English isn't my first language, I don't understand your last sentence. Diana056 (talk) 13:43, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Diana056 Sorry for being not clear. Pls provide cisweb URL. Cassiopeia talk 23:47, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

You mean this ? Diana056 (talk) 00:34, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

This won't pass WP:RS. Their 'about' section says they're a regional organization dedicated to:

"conveying the message of Islam to humanity in Sri Lanka". Not exactly impartial. Nswix (talk) 00:48, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Diana056 Thank you for the link (URL). Agreed with Nswix here, the site/source is not a reliable. Cassiopeia talk 05:07, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

So I have PRIMARY SOURCE Alexsandro Pereira converting to Islam "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntDdQGSxa9c&ab_channel=WestDawnMedia" In this video Alex Pereira is reciting Shahada. Which is required for conversion to Islam. Note the word Alexsandro Pereira repeats are: "Ash-hadu alla ilaha illallah, wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadar-Rasulullah" This basically means: "I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah." Saying Shahada means you're a Muslim. There is no other requirement to be a Muslim other than to say Shahada. This statement is from wikipeida itself: "A single honest recitation of the Shahada is all that is required for a person to become a Muslim according to most traditional schools" Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahada So Alexsandro Pereira reciting Shahada means he is a MUSLIM. as per wikipedia. So I would kindly request to reinstate the fact that Alex Pereira is a Muslim

Also there also articles from NON-RELIGIOUS sites that confirms that Alex Pereira converted to Islam like this one: https://shstrendz.com/alex-pereira/

So I would kindly and request request editors here to reinstate the fact that Alex Pereira is a Muslim 119.73.121.33 (talk) 04:35, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi IP editor 119.73.121.33, Pls note that content added/changed needs to be supported by independent (not connection/affliation with the subject), reliable source(IRS), published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. such as from the major newspapers or books, for verification which is core policy of Wikipedia. Self source can be permitted provided it is only involved the subject "only" where by the info is important/significant to the subject and only use extremely sparingly in the said article. Even the source is independent and reliable the content still does not mean automatically include in the article unless as mentioned above it needs to be demonstrate the significant and important to the article. Many subjects in Wikipedia do have a religion believe, but mostly they are not included as it bear not significant merit tot he subject. Mixeadrticle is not a reliable source. If Pereira personal web site indicate he is a Muslim, then we can use it but if they is no evident that his conversion to the religion stop him from being drunk and subsequently help his career to a new high then the info of his is a Muslim or not has not significant contribution to be included into the article. Hope this help. Cassiopeia talk 05:00, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

IPA needed

To crudely use the English IPA for the question's purpose, I'm hearing /pɛˈheɪrʌ/ (per Joe Rogan) and /pɛˈreɪʌ/ (Per Jon Anik). Which is it, if either one? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:44, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2024

Alex is now a black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu Trosa456 (talk) 05:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

We'll have to wait for it to get reported so we have a source Nswix (talk) 05:35, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2024 (2)

after UFC300 he is now a black belt in BJJ 178.197.199.241 (talk) 05:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 05:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2024

Add yellow belt in judo under “rankings” he earned this under Kayla Harrison after ufc 303 the video is on insta 76.166.209.180 (talk) 00:39, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Instagram is not a reliable source. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 05:12, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2024 (2)

he just received his yellow belt in judo from Kayla Harrison 96.63.27.154 (talk) 13:10, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide a reliable source to support this claim. JohnLaurensAnthonyRamos333 (correct me if I'm wrong) 23:04, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Why is this article being controlled by a small number of power users?

Just a few power users seem to make all the edits and control the content of this page, resulting in a low quality article. E.g. Plinio Cruz is one of Poatan's coaches, and has been for years, while there is no mention of this in this article. Wake up power users!124.171.39.13 (talk) 19:07, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Article gets too much vandalism to have it open to everyone. Anyone can make suggestions here though. Nswix (talk) 23:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Alex has a yellow belt in judo

Alex was given a yellow belt in judo by Kayla Harrison. 98.116.250.125 (talk) 02:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Video of shahada

There is literally a video of him taking the shahada lol why cant we say hes Muslim I find V to be V (talk) 06:20, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

That video was 9 years ago. There’s no proof he’s still a Muslim unless you find a reliable source that says so. Also to me it seems like he left Islam because we never see him participate in anything relating to Islam. Creatorial (talk) 06:30, 29 August 2024 (UTC)