Talk:Alessandro Bardelli (rowing)

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Requested move 26 April 2018 edit

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The result of the move request was: move the pages as requested, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 20:03, 4 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

– Coxswains compete in the sport of rowing, but they don't engage in the activity of rowing itself; instead, they "cox" the team of rowers. The current use of “rower” as disambiguator is thus incorrect. I’ve had this tested through a formal move request for Brian Price and whilst there was community consensus to use “rowing” as the dab, there had been a considerable amount of discussion where a variety of views were expressed. As such, I think it’s better to put the remaining coxswains through a formal move request rather than rely on the previous discussion. Schwede 66 18:18, 26 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Neutral Rower can refer to someone who partakes in the sport of rowing, not necessarily someone who literally rows. For example, I'd call a fire truck driver a "firefighter" even if they don't literally grab the hose and spray water._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 19:28, 26 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Yes, but you wouldn't call the fire chief, whose job it is to direct a team of them, simply a "firefighter". --Netoholic @ 23:00, 28 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

I certainly would. Better examples may exist because your point is well-made; however, the Chief is just as much a firefighter as anyone else on his or her crew. Paine Ellsworth ^put'r there 22:13, 1 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Yes, so would I, unless they were only an administrator who'd never actually worked as a firefighter. Just as nobody would claim a chief constable wasn't a police officer. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:55, 2 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Support - per WP:NCSP, use of the name of the sport is acceptable and this avoids the uncommon/jargon word "coxswain", which itself isn't limited in use to this sport. I've put together this Google Ngram search comparing rower, coxswain, and the three terms that are mentioned in the guideline as obscure/jargony. Rower is used 2-3 times as much as coxswain, which is used about the same as pugilist (and keep in mind coxswain is also used as a military occupation). --Netoholic @ 20:37, 26 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
Support. This makes sense. Rreagan007 (talk) 16:01, 27 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
Against. Much ado about nothing.Sticks 66 10:10, 29 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
Support proposed therm removes any possibility of confusion.--67.68.161.151 (talk) 02:41, 1 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
Keep as is or Move all to "Foo (coxswain)". It's been stated for some bizarre reason that "coxswain" is uncommon, obscure jargon. It clearly is not (disclaimer: I have no involvement or even interest in rowing!). This is what they do. What's wrong with using it? -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:53, 2 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
Pinging participants in the previous discussion: @MisterSynergy: @Cuchullain: @Galobtter:. Dekimasuよ! 16:44, 2 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
Support. If they're not rowers, they're not rowers, so the present titles aren't acceptable. The proposed solution works just fine, and is more recognizable than "coxswain".--Cúchullain ^t/c 17:26, 2 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

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