Talk:Hurricane Linda (2015)

Linda/Utah mess

Well mother nature has created a big mess on us. Right now we have two articles from two fairly related events. Linda and the Utah floods. Think that is a bit too much, especially given that aside from setting a bunch of epic rainfall records, Linda didn't do too much. Given that it appeared that (correct me if I'm wrong) Linda played a crucial role in the Utah events by help pluming deep tropical moisture into the region, I would favor merging the Utah flood article, but I'd like to see more proof that was indeed the case. Regardless, I think two articles is too much for two somewhat minor events. What do you guys think? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 02:53, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Linda was essentially dead at the time and only provided a little extra moisture. The primary factor was an upper-level trough that moved into the region. Linda's direct influence is limited to Mexico and California. I was preemptive with making Linda's article since I originally assumed it had a greater role in the Utah floods. The Utah flood is without a doubt its own event and warrants a separate article accordingly. Linda did have some notable effects in California that have yet to be added to the article so a merger into the season article may not be necessary. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 02:59, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

How does this situation differ from Hurricane Norbert (2014) and Tropical Storm Octave (1983) then? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 03:03, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Norbert was the primary factor in the associated floods in 2014 as it was simply southerly from stemming from its circulation. As for Octave, I highly question the storm being so prominently attributed given that multiple factors combined to create the 1983 floods. It was a crucial part, yes, but still just a part of the overall puzzle. In my opinion, Octave should be moved to 1983 Arizona floods (but the impact still be attributed to the cyclone in the season article). A quick glance at some of the reports cited in Octave's article also leads me to believe the article far overstates Octave's role.... Cyclonebiskit (talk) 03:12, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree with CB here. Every southwest flood event is slightly different, but for me, it comes down to the Utah flooding being the most notable aspect. In the future, when people will look for this encyclopediac event, they'll want the Utah floods. Some of the California flood stuff could probably be included here, as it's related. As for everything else, I think the article can be merged. I won't comment on the other storms listed though, that's more of a case-by-case thing. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:04, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) 16:41, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

I figured I'll review something else, given how many GAN's I have.

• In the opening sentence, I'm not sure "brought heavy rains" is appropriate. Normally it is a fine use, but the rain was tangential, so I'm not sure "brought" is the right term. "resulted in heavy rains" would be fine. It's more semantics, but it bugged me for some reason.
• "mudslides resulted in the closure of multiple highways and damaged over a dozen homes" - grammatically, this could use more agreement. The "resulted in" should refer to the rest of the sentence, so "resulted in the closure of multiple highways and damage to over a dozen homes."
• "Several small communities were temporarily isolated as flood waters covered bridges." - the "as" is ambiguous. Does it mean "after", "because of", "while", "due to", etc.?
• Link pesos in the lead?
• "Monsoonal moisture pulled north from Linda brought thunderstorms" - see garden path sentence. "pulled" is ambiguous whether it's an active verb or a passive participle, so it could be clearer.
• "On that day Los Angeles received 2.39 in (61 mm) of rain making it the second-wettest September since records began in 1877." - was this the only rainfall LA received that month, on that day? If not, then say "contributing to the second-wettest..." Also, I'd add a comma or two.
• You say "a seasonally strong upper-level trough" in consecutive paragraphs. How come you like that wording so much :P
  • Whoops...that was a lazy copy/paste job on my part when merging the Utah flood article into this. Reworded the second usage to jive better with the overall article. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 02:40, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
• "and some homes were damaged due to flooding." - where is that in the article? Maybe I'm missing it.
  • Blame 12george1 :P Removed the last sentence altogether since there wasn't much substance. Kept Hildale in the lede by indicating where the 21 fatalities took place. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 02:40, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

All in all a great read. Should pass GA very easily. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:41, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

• Everything should be handled now. Thanks for the review, Hink! ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 02:40, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Antelope Canyon

Is not a national park as stated in the 2nd to last paragraph. It's a Navajo tribal park. Not sure what the deadliest weather related incident in a National Park is. Pretzelpaws (talk) 21:52, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

I've removed the sentence in question. I'm not sure what the replacement would be but the article works just the same without this factoid. Thanks for the heads up! ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 22:01, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

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