Talk:1998 Football League Third Division play-off final

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 02:04, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that the 1998 Football League Third Division play-off Final was the first play-off final to feature two brothers when Neil and David Gregory played for Colchester United?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Avro Lancaster FM213

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 20:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC).

• Article is a 5x expansion, done in the proper time frame. It is well sourced, with citations throughout. There is a source inline that validates the hook fact, which is interesting enough. There does not appear to be any copy vio or POV text. QPQ is done. Good to go. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:57, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Amakuru (talk · contribs) 12:56, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Lead

• "took part in play-offs" - in the body, it says "took part in the play-offs"
• "competed for the final place for the 1998–99 season in the Second Division" - repetition; you already said above that we were determining the fourth and final team to gain promotion
• "the ball struck the arm of Jon Gittens to concede a penalty" - the ball conceded a penalty?

Route to the final

• the play-offs -> the play-offs
• "Liam Robinson was then sent off..." - slightly repetitive, as the previous sentence also said "was then"
• "the match ended 4–1 to Torquay who advanced..." - maybe a comma after Torquay?
• "the first leg was held at Underhill on 11 May 1998" - need to make clear who the home team is here.
• "were shown a red card for violent conduct" - it feels slightly odd that we're linking red card here, even though there was a sending off mentioned in the Torquay section.
• Actually, on that note, is there any reason why Colchester's route to the final is shown after Torquay's? In the infobox they're listed first, and were also higher in the league table.

Background

• " to progress past the semi-finals losing on aggregate..." - maybe a comma after "semi-finals"?
• "They had played in the fourth tier of English football after gaining promotion from non-League football, winning the Football Conference in 1992 ahead of Wycombe Wanderers on goal difference. Colchester had last played in the third tier in the 1980–81 season" - since this detail is included, it sounds like there's a bit missing here. They were in the third tier, then they were in non-league, so they must have been in the fourth tier too at some point before their non-league stint. If that something about that can be added without being too verbose, then it might be beneficial.
• Link Penalty shoot-out (association football), and probably add a hyphen, since that's what the article does.
• "having gained promotion on one occasion" - make clear that this is gaining promotion via the play-offs, rather than by any other means (assuming that is what it means).

Summary

• "McFarlane scored but the goal was disallowed for offside" - minor point, but if the goal was disallowed then he didn't really score, did he...
• "Neil Gregory was unmarked in the Torquay penalty area but shot wide" - it sounds like this is still part of the penalty narrative. Maybe add a time or somethign, to make clear that it's a separate incident.
• "3 yards (2.7 m)" - the old precision chestnut again!
• "Soon after the interval Simon Betts struck a shot from around 25 yards (23 m) which almost crept under Gregg's body but rolled out for a corner" - I can't quite visualise this. If it almost crept under Gregg's body, then presumably it didn't actually creep under his body. But how did it then roll for a corner? Did it deflect off him and go behind or something?
• "Gibbs had appeared to foul David Gregory" - according to whom?
• "A shot from Gibbs was then deflected wide, Gittens headed over the bar and Jack shot wide" - all in the same move?!

Post-match

• Any quotes from Kevin Hodges?
• I'd probably mention Colchester's next-season placing first, given that they were the winning side and also listed first. And make clear whether they were relegated or not.
• Likewise, probably indicate whether Torquay's 20th place was a relegation one or not.

@The Rambling Man:That's about it for the first pass. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 13:25, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Amakuru I think I got them all, thanks for the review! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 18:12, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Great, all looks fine and dandy. I've checked the refs too, they all seem valid and formatted. Promoting to GA.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:29, 14 July 2021 (UTC)