Talk:1934 German head of state referendum/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Elli (talk · contribs) 20:47, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Claiming this review; will work on it shortly. Elli (talk | contribs) 20:47, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Images

• File:Ja dem Fuehrer.jpg looks fine though I do not know the details of German copyright law.
• File:RGBL I 1934 S 0747.png is fine.
• File:1934 German referendum ballot (cropped).jpg is fine.
• Ideally we'd have a map of the results, similar to File:March 1933 German federal election by District.svg (but using the yes/no color scheme typical for referendums). But that isn't necessary for GA.

  Y I have put in a request at c:Commons:Graphic Lab/Map workshop#1934 Germany referendum results. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:39, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Overall no real problems here. Elli (talk | contribs) 19:23, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Background

Hitler's rise to power

• Shirer source checks out. Don't have access to McDonough or Beck.
• but Hindenburg retained the ability to dismiss Hitler the source doesn't exactly verify this? Technically it is assumed that the President may dismiss the Chancellor... is what I assume verifies this, but the way the article is written doesn't make that power seem nearly as concrete as the prose here. Would maybe do though Hindenburg technically retained the ability to dismiss Hitler.

   Done HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:39, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Elections in Nazi Germany

• Can't access most of the sources here so again accepting on good faith.

   Already done HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:00, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

The referendum

• Was there any legislative rubber-stamping of the referendum? Assuming this was called under the "Law concerning the Plebiscite", did the cabinet act, or was it just Hitler; if so, when?

  Zurcher says that On August 19, 1934, the cabinet availed itself, a second time, of its self-appointed authority to consult the people. Pollock has a translation of a letter Hitler wrote to his Minister of the Interior requesting that the cabinet do so. It would be WP:SYNTH to say that the cabinet exercised the power at Hitler's request, so I think the best path forward would be to just say the cabinet did so (citing Zurcher), and ditch the WP:PRIMARY source account. Does that work for you? HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:39, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

   Done HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:00, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

  Looks good; sorry for not replying to your comment here earlier. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:34, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Overall no major problems in this section, just a few things to clarify. Elli (talk | contribs) 20:37, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Conduct

• Is there a better source we can use for the wording than Shu?

   Done HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:00, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

• Although it gave Hitler the right to pass laws that were contrary to the constitution, it stated that the president's powers were to remain "undisturbed", which has long been interpreted to forbid any attempt to tamper with the presidency. might want to clarify that "it" is talking about the Enabling Act here. The way the book explains this (and the following sentence as well) are more clear; obviously we can't just copy them but I feel like this could use a bit of reworking.

   Done HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:00, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

No other issues here. Elli (talk | contribs) 17:28, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Results

Looks good, though I can't access the sources.

 Already done HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:00, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Lead and overall notes

• Probably want to mention the referendum's date of 19 August in the Conduct section.

   Done HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:00, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

• Maybe have an aftermath section? And perhaps some commentary on the result at the time from people who weren't Nazis.

  @Elli: I'll find some non-Nazi commentary, but I am not sure what would go in an aftermath section. There was not much which happened as a result of the referendum: it merely confirmed the status quo. Stuff certainly happened afterwards, but not because of the referendum. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 16:27, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

  @HouseBlaster: Maybe expand on that a bit? I'd move the reactions (both from Nazis and others) into a "Reactions and aftermath" section and spend a sentence or two explaining that the referendum confirmed the status quo. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:44, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

  @Elli: I have created/expanded a Reactions and aftermath section. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:40, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

  Looks good. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:13, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

@HouseBlaster: Once you address these comments I should be able to promote the article. Elli (talk | contribs) 17:44, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Checklist

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   Nice job! Elli (talk | contribs) 23:13, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

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