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Am I reading this right?

Does the phrase first cousin twice removed refer to both:

• my great-grandmother's nephew, and
• my first cousin's grandson?

I would have thought they would be given different titles as they're so far apart on the family tree. --ML5 (talk) 11:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

It would be more direct to call those your great-great-grandmother's grandson and your grandmother's great-great-grandson. With these terms (referring to the same people you listed), the symmetry is more obvious: Since the closer part of each path is two generations away ("grandson" in the first, and "grandmother" in the second), the main relationship is [two minus one]th cousin (first cousin). And since the difference in the two parts of the path is two generations ("great-great-grandmother" is two generations more than "grandson", and "grandmother" is two generations less than "great-great-grandson"), the secondary relationship is two-times removed (twice removed). If it were your grandmother's grandson, the first part would still result in first cousins, but since "grandmother" and "grandson" are the same "length", the difference is 0, so they're first cousins, zero times removed, or just plain first cousins. --ΨΦorg (talk) 15:45, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

To tell this simpler way: in first case, you are in same relation with this "cousin" than in the second relation is the "cousin" with you. And those relationships should be mutual. That's at least how I reason this. 89.212.104.155 (talk) 22:52, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

"Grand uncle"?

Is this a regional difference? I'm British, and "great uncle" (and "great-great uncle" etc) is pretty much universal here. Of course, I don't know what professional genealogists say, but colloquially there's no contest: a Google fight between "great uncle" and "grand uncle" is nearly 13:1 in favour of the former. 86.132.138.159 (talk) 14:11, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I am American, and I have never heard of "grand uncle" (and so on). The term "great uncle" is how everyone I know says it. I just set myself to the task of cleaning up the image (making things line up more precisely), and now I think I'll change it to "great uncle" and such. One question I have is whether there is supposed to be a hyphen between "great" and "grandfather", or just between a "great" and another "great". SidShakal (talk) 13:04, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

"Me"

It is unclear who the "Me" is in this image. If it is the creator of the image, they should be clearly identified.

You're kidding, right?

Personally, I'd prefer usage of "self", as it can be taken to mean the more generic "oneself", which keeps things in the third person, instead of the first person. SidShakal (talk) 12:57, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Once, twice... removed

Is this term used outside of the United States? NorthernThunder (talk) 03:51, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it's used in the UK.--ML5 (talk) 09:27, 18 November 2009 (UTC)