Category talk:Living people
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![]() | This category was nominated for renaming on 25 May 2009. The result of the discussion was keep. |
![]() | This category was nominated for deletion on 20 October 2008. The result of the discussion was Snowball Keep. |
![]() | This category was nominated for renaming on 3 September 2007. The result of the discussion was not to rename to Category:Living persons. |
![]() | This category was nominated for renaming on 23 January 2006. The result of the discussion was no consensus to rename. |
![]() | This category was nominated for deletion on 19 January 2006. The result of the discussion was keep per edict of Jimbo Wales. |
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
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Scope of this category, redux
editDoes the scope of this category extend to e.g. music bands (which on the one hand are made up of living people, and which on the other hand are not biographies of those living people, but rather, err, a band.) I estimate several thousand band articles are in the category. I'm not finding that a very useful thing, since I'd like living people to equal 'a biography of a living person' and to exclude 'something a person is involved in'. I'd either like cover for removing the category; or else to be dissuaded from removing them. --Tagishsimon (talk) 14:24, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
- Not really, as this a subcategory of Category:People, which is for individual humans, but all articles must still follow WP:BLP policy, regardless of subject or which categories they're in. Living band members should be in this category if they have their own article, as should redirects of living members who may or may not satisfy notability criteria, per Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects. Talk pages of band articles with living members, can be tagged with {{BLP}}. As the article topic and scope drifts further away from living people, the necessity to include {{BLP}} lessens: Democratic Party (United States) covers some living people, some of whom may be controversial, while Canada is a broad topic, and no participants of the American Civil War are still living, but BLP policy still applies to any mention of living people (politicians, historians, etc.) in said articles. --Animalparty! (talk) 20:52, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
- Having said all that, I'm sure everyone here will agree: "Living People" is one dang big category. I expected to fill up my phone's RAM trying to view it. I suppose it's just as well it's not actually laid out that way—but it was an exciting prospect. – AndyFielding (talk) 13:08, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
last decade vs. last ten years
editThis category currently offers the following message:
I imagine the intention of this message is to say that if Person X become 90 years of age during 2021 then the period of no new documentation covers 2011-2021. And that if Person Y become 90 years of age in 2029, the period intended is 2019-2029.
But the phrasing used leads to another outcome. The current decade is the 2020s and the last one is the 2010s. This is true both today in 2021 and in eight years time in 2029. So if the last document is dated 2012 it will prevent transfer into Category:Possibly living people for both person X and Y, even though 2012 is seventeen years before person Y's 90th birthday.
The easy solution I suggest is:
- change "for whom there has been no new documentation in the last decade"
to
- "for whom there has been no new documentation in the last ten years"
PS. I couldn't understand if it was sourced from a policy (or other authoritative discussion) so I am bringing up this matter here. Cheers CapnZapp (talk) 15:29, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
"List of living people" listed at Redirects for discussion
editThe redirect List of living people has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 7 § List of living people until a consensus is reached. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:06, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Derive category automatically?
editI suggest that instead of tagging each "living person" article with this category, it should be possible to just derive this from {{infobox person}}
usages with a birth_date but no death_date. Mahmoud (talk) 03:29, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
Suppresses link to Page notice
editAssistance required. See post at Template_talk:BLP_editnotice#Suppresses_link_to_Page_notice regarding the loss of access to Page notice when the BLP_editnotice template is added automatically via the Living people category. SilkTork (talk) 11:52, 24 February 2024 (UTC)